We figured this was coming… However we actually thought it could be lots higher for Donald Trump!
Ever because the President despatched his private legal protection lawyer — now his Deputy Lawyer Basic Todd Blanche — right down to Tallahassee to interview Ghislaine Maxwell, the repair was in. All she needed to do was say Trump was harmless, take the warmth off him for not releasing the Epstein recordsdata. As a result of he’s been trying responsible as hell — all his associations with underage intercourse trafficker Jeffrey Epstein lastly getting put underneath the microscope as he angrily fought towards releasing these recordsdata. So after all they had been going to launch the transcript of her convo with Blanche. Not the precise proof they’ve had for months, the recordsdata they’d tons of of brokers working over time to flag Trump’s identify in. However this new convo? Once they have already got an curiosity in clearing the POTUS? Positive, that the American individuals can have.
Spoiler alert: Maxwell does say she by no means noticed Trump do something fallacious… which is what we anticipated. However she additionally says she by no means noticed EPSTEIN do something fallacious! And oh yeah, she by no means did something fallacious herself, both! Oh, and by the best way, Invoice Clinton is completely harmless, too!
This has bought to be a joke, proper? NO ONE DID ANYTHING WRONG???
Look, this factor is 337 pages, and ain’t nobody with a job bought time to learn all that. However let’s take a look at the fundamentals right here. Earlier than the deep dive, listed below are the highlights and lowlights from the redacted transcripts…
Donald Trump
First off, she says she by no means noticed Trump do something fallacious, nor did she ever hear about him appearing inappropriately, “completely by no means, in any context.” She defended him utterly:
“I truly by no means noticed the President in any sort of therapeutic massage setting. I by no means witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any approach. The President was by no means inappropriate with anyone. Within the instances that I used to be with him, he was a gentleman in all respects.”
Not solely that, she says they weren’t even mates, not likely! Not that she noticed, anyway:
“I don’t know Epstein’s — if he had — regardless of the nature of the President’s friendship, if you’ll, or nonetheless you wish to outline that with Epstein, I used to be — by no means witnessed.”
She mentioned all these photographs and movies of them collectively had been simply acquaintances being civil at events, not exhibiting mates hanging out:
“I feel they had been pleasant like persons are in social settings. I don’t suppose they had been shut mates.”
Even that e-book for Epstein’s fiftieth birthday, they requested her about that. And he or she mentioned she didn’t recall seeing something from Trump in it.
OK, so what? All of the tales mutual mates, staff, and girls have informed through the years, that’s all a lie? All of the tales Epstein informed? They didn’t hang around? They didn’t throw events for younger fashions, they didn’t go to casinos collectively?

We really feel like she might have overdone it just a little bit saying they weren’t mates in any respect. This simply isn’t in step with the information we have already got on the market. It is in step with the narrative Trump has been making an attempt to promote recently. You realize, that he was by no means mates with “Jeff” the “terrific man” who he knew “for 15 years” in any respect.
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Talking of laying it on thick, Ghislaine gave her opinion of Trump the person, saying:
“I love his extraordinary achievement in turning into the President now. And I like him, and I’ve at all times preferred him. So that’s the sum and substance of my whole relationship with him.”
She doesn’t actually know him, however she admires him. Nice.
Invoice Clinton
Talking of men to defend, Maxwell introduced the warmth for Invoice Clinton, too. She mentioned of the previous POTUS:
“President Clinton was my good friend, not Epstein’s good friend.”
She didn’t imagine Epstein and Clinton had “an impartial friendship” apart from the previous serving to the latter with the airplane rides for charity, just like the ’90s Democrat chief has at all times maintained. She says Clinton by no means set foot on Epstein’s dwelling in Little St. James, aka Pedophile Island:
“He by no means. Completely by no means went. And I may be certain of that as a result of there’s no approach he would’ve gone — I don’t imagine there’s any approach that he would’ve gone to the island, had I not been there. As a result of I don’t imagine he had an impartial friendship, if you’ll, with Epstein. He was a wealthy man with a airplane.”
What in regards to the airplane? Invoice’s rides on the so-called Lolita Specific? Nothing untoward occurred, and Clinton by no means bought a “therapeutic massage,” she declared:
“So that they frolicked on the airplane collectively, and I don’t imagine there was ever a therapeutic massage on the airplane. So that will’ve been the one time that I feel that President Clinton may have even obtained a therapeutic massage. And he didn’t, as a result of I used to be there.”
Maxwell mentioned she spent a while socially with the Clintons, together with going to Chelsea Clinton‘s marriage ceremony and going to their home quite a few instances. Heck, she mentioned she noticed him socially as not too long ago as 2018. However Epstein? No. He positively by no means had any “dealings” with Hillary Clinton, as far as she knew.
OK, so Ghislaine Maxwell by no means noticed Trump OR Clinton do something fallacious. The factor is, it could be arduous for her to have seen both man do something inappropriate, since, in line with her… she by no means noticed Epstein do something fallacious both!
Yeah. Buckle up for this BS.
‘By no means Noticed’ Epstein?!
“I’m not right here to defend him.”
That’s what Ghislaine Maxwell mentioned about her boyfriend/boss on this interview. And but… She didn’t come to sentence him both.
When Deputy AG Todd Blanche — a lawyer who had no expertise on the case thoughts you — requested Maxwell about Epstein’s sexual abuse of the younger ladies he saved round as masseuses? She declared:
“I by no means noticed that with them in any respect.”
So she was “not right here to defend him”… However she had the identical reply as she did for Donald Trump?? She by no means noticed something?? She added:
“I’m not saying that Mr. Epstein didn’t do these issues… I don’t really feel comfy saying that in the present day, given what I now know to be true.”
However she made clear she didn’t know something and that she personally “didn’t take part in that exercise.”
OK, so… WTF good is she as a witness to exculpate Donald Trump then? As a result of we don’t care what facet of the aisle you’re on, you’re gonna have a tough time discovering somebody who believes Epstein wasn’t doing something fallacious with younger ladies! If she’s saying she didn’t see or know something about that… then after all she’s going to say that about each man alive, that she didn’t see them do something with Epstein. As a result of she by no means even noticed EPSTEIN doing something!

Once more, she mentioned she wasn’t there to defend Epstein, however… She did say he didn’t file anybody for blackmail or every other goal as far as she knew:
“I by no means wired, nor noticed, a single home that had any sort of inappropriate, let’s say, video surveillance.”
The truth is, she mentioned she was unaware of Epstein ever blackmailing anybody — and says there is no such thing as a “Epstein checklist” as a result of that’s all made up.
“Completely no. There is no such thing as a checklist. There is no such thing as a – I’m not conscious of any blackmail. I by no means heard that. I by no means noticed it and I by no means imagined it.”
She pointed to the little black e-book (examine that HERE) as being the supply of the confusion as to why individuals would suppose there’s a “checklist.”
AND when she was requested in regards to the reality he at all times surrounded himself with younger girls, she mentioned they had been at all times of authorized age AND that he like youthful girls as a result of in contrast to girls his age, they had been “invigorating” and at all times “updated on music.”
Are you effing severe??
Oh yeah. And that’s not all. Blanche requested Maxwell if she thought Epstein was a “sexual deviant.” Finally she mentioned:
“If he had been creepy… I don’t suppose the ladies would have been there.”
For somebody not right here to defend Epstein, she appears fairly adamant he didn’t abuse ladies or blackmail the lads he trafficked them to… , the issues he was accused of.
OMG. We all know what that is. She pulled a Marc Antony, “I come to bury Caesar, to not reward him.” She mentioned she wasn’t there to defend Epstein, however that’s all we’re seeing right here is protection of the person!
Trump is getting the headlines he desires from this, we’re certain. Each outlet that already helps him (or has company homeowners who do) will lead with “Ghislaine Maxwell Says Trump Didn’t Do Something Flawed” or “Maxwell Clears Trump’s Title.” However that’s a extremely bonkers framing of this entire factor. As a result of by that normal she’s additionally clearing Epstein’s identify, too.
May that be the last word purpose right here? Trump has been calling this entire factor a hoax. Is he planning on pushing the narrative to be that Epstein was harmless the entire time? That he was only a pawn utilized by the corrupt deep state to attempt to body Trump? Solely what, they waited till he was in energy for the second time to gentle the fuse on that? That appears to be the play alright! The truth is, Trump doubled down on the hoax speak Friday morning! He was requested about lastly releasing data on Epstein, and he claimed he helps releasing the recordsdata now — simply as long as everybody is aware of to not imagine something as a result of:
“It’s a Democrat hoax. It’s only a hoax. The entire Epstein factor is a Democrat hoax.”
Trump: “It’s a Democrat hoax. It’s only a hoax. The entire Epstein factor is a Democrat hoax.” pic.twitter.com/DFXASXn8ij
— The Bulwark (@BulwarkOnline) August 22, 2025
JFC, we’re lower than a month away from Trumpy pundits defending Epstein, aren’t we? They’re definitely going to be defending Ghislaine Maxwell. Identical to she’s defending herself…
Who, Me?
Keep in mind, this girl was CONVICTED on intercourse trafficking costs. She was discovered responsible of being the one who lured and procured underage ladies for her boss to intercourse site visitors. That’s what was testified towards her, that’s what the jury discovered. She was sentenced to twenty years.
However to listen to her inform it — similar to all the lads — she didn’t do something fallacious both. A number of instances she famous that she by no means witnessed any wrongdoing, she by no means participated within the sexual abuse of younger ladies. Once more, that’s not what the victims have mentioned. One going by Jane within the trial mentioned each Epstein and Maxwell sexually abused her when she was 14 years previous. Shocker, we all know — however Ghislaine maintains her innocence, saying:
“I truly don’t suppose that the testimony is appropriate.”
She claims she solely met Jane when she was 20 years previous. And he or she reiterates twice extra that the younger girl’s testimony was “not correct.”
So yeah, that is the particular person Trump is now going to lean on. A intercourse trafficker who nonetheless says she’s harmless.
We guess nobody was ever trafficked in any respect, proper? This was all a hoax, is that it? That’s the place we’re going? And what, Epstein was killed earlier than he may defend himself in courtroom? Properly…
Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself
Maxwell is within the camp that doesn’t purchase that Epstein killed himself. She says within the transcripts:
“I don’t imagine he died by suicide, no.”
She takes the conspiracy idea one additional although, entering into the nitty gritty of placing out hits on individuals in jail:
“In jail, the place I’m, they’ll kill you or they’ll pay — someone will pay a prisoner to kill you for $25 value of commissary. That’s in regards to the going charge for successful with a lock in the present day.”
So… the brand new story goes to be what? Trump didn’t do something, Maxwell didn’t do something, Epstein didn’t do something… what, we’re again to lock up Hillary Clinton, we guess?
It definitely looks as if the White Home is shopping for in on Maxwell saying everybody was harmless… seeing as they already let her go from her horrible jail in Florida to one of many cushiest Membership Fed nation membership prisons there may be!
This entire factor STINKS to excessive heaven. And we’d hope all the opposite people who’ve been being attentive to the Epstein stuff the previous few years can odor it. Once more, it doesn’t matter what their politics are… we must always ALL be towards underage sexual abuse and trafficking right here!
You’ll be able to see the redacted transcripts for your self HERE.
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